sup OPPO! Healthcare rant and CL hunt!

"EL_ULY" (uly)
08/24/2014 at 14:05 • Filed to: None

Did you know that the American Heathcare System sucks gigantic robot turtle balls covered in rotten swiss cheese, dog fur, and hot sour mayo.

We were headed out to the lake for my sisters 18th birthday when she started getting crazy abdominal pains. She was screaming and crying from the pain. The only place close was 25 minutes away at a random 24hr emergency room things. Even though my parents are paying $1,200 a month for healthcare, it doesn't cover emergency rooms unless a doctor (some shitty ass one approved by the healthcare company next to a ghetto ass grocery store) tell the company to go to an emergency room.

Idk, maybe it was my parents choosing the wrong plan or coverage. Either way, this little trip has me (the only one that brought a wallet) $1400 down for meds and a shot.

It's funny that they will not take us in unless they squared away a form of payment. The place is empty.

My mom needs a minor surgery for her gaul bladder or however you spell it. As Mexican national, for a little over $1000 she can get the procedure done. That's less than what they payfor extremely shitty Healthcare here in Murica. As for meds, pretty much all my family in Mexico are MD's. I went to a off brand medicine lab Near Guadalajara once with them. Holy modern and state of the art facility Batman!

Basically, unless you are super rich, beyond broke, or a prisoner/terrorist, healthcare is not worth it in Murica right?

I mean it could be us doing something wrong right?

To make this car related, their ambulances were all Merc Sprinter van things. On the way to the lake i saw 2 new Vipers, a niice 68 GTO, a Raptor completely done up trophy truck style, and my dad's truck just passed the 550K miles on the ticker.

Thanks for reading my sheeeet rant. What sweet cars can you find on your local CL for $1400?

The picture above is at my wife's house. Making some ribs on the grill that day as a Jetta sits and waits. SOON

DISCUSSION (47)

Flavien Vidal > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:14

I never had to pay for anything like this... I can go to the emergency room anytime I need. I didn't imagine that a shitty healthcare cost that much in the US though... 1200$ a month for a family is insane, absolutly insane.

Atomic Buffalo > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:15

You were the only one with a wallet??

The lesson here is "don't go anywhere without proof of insurance."

Your sister/parents should be able to provide their billing dept with her insurance deets, and if the chart shows it was an emergency condition the insurer ought to pay.

But it's still a wasteful "system." So much effort getting care paid for.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:28

You need to report them then, an emergency is required by law to treat you regardless of if you can pay or not:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency…

Individuals requesting emergency care , or those for whom a representative has made a request if the patient is unable, must receive a medical screening examination to determine whether an emergency medical condition (EMC) exists. The participating hospital cannot delay examination and treatment to inquire about methods of payment or insurance coverage, or a patient's citizenship or legal status. The hospital may only start the process of payment inquiry and billing once they have ensured that doing so will not interfere with or otherwise compromise patient care.

Also I think your parents chose the wrong plan, most plans cover emergency room visits and they don't require a referral.

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:29

Wow. That is a lot of BS to get treatment. I don't have these problems however because:

Kinja'd!!!

Svend > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:32

No I don't know all about how the U.S. operates it's system but it shouldn't be about money.

I know I'm going to get shot down for this but (yes I know the U.K. system isn't perfect by a long way) I can't believe a country is happy to spend so much on it's military and not look after it's people who need care especially emergency care. Obama has tried over and over to address it and he gets shot down repeatedly which I find ironic when some guy/gal goes on the loose with a gun the cry is for more people to be armed and not control (which is what the majority of the world says is needed).

I hope your sister is feeling better or has gotten better.

XJDano > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:35

As indifferent as I am about being in a union for work, and how St.Louis is still Union strong.

Having healthcare insurance paid for by union dues & deductions has been a blessing. It seems that as soon as everyone is healthy for a fee months something happens where one of us needs to head to urgent care or hospital.

It was way worse when the kids were younger, always something, and if it wasn't one it was the other.

Quick glance at insurance card is $75 copay for ER & then what ever they don't cover.

Oh & cl hunt:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4624604579…

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4589585920…

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/4598323162…

Svend > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 14:35

and here too.

Kinja'd!!!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:38

In March I had to go to an Urgent Care due to asthma, this is the bill for a 45 minute visit.

$285 fucking dollars for the use of an $85 dollar machine. $187 dollars for an injection(not including the medicine) from someone who is payed less than $13/hour.

EL_ULY > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 14:40

lol and we don't either usually (Mexico flag) because we all are either Mexican nationals or have dual citizenship. Oh well, one has to work hard to be broke here in Murica though. Middle class gets it up the butt the worst. With no lube, because it's not covered by our plan lol

EL_ULY > Svend
08/24/2014 at 14:45

She is better but yeah it's all a corrupt mafia when it comes to healthcare. Alll the other stuff (military, etc) is nothing new and will continue

EL_ULY > XJDano
08/24/2014 at 14:49

Damn dude that is rad. My parents are self employed. I don't get healthcare at my job either. Mexico being so close and being either nationals or with dual citizenship helps a bunch.

I want to rock that 944 and especially the ambulance sooo bad :]

EL_ULY > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
08/24/2014 at 14:50

damn dude, that is insane!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 14:59

It is ridiculous.

XJDano > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 15:00

Trust me there is a lot that insurance doesn't cover so months after we get bills from $3.28-$760 but them look at the $2,400 bill and that $760 ain't so bad.

I know of some guys that took a ambulance like that and made it a tow vehicle for rally events & sleep arrangements.

thats for both 944s ones a parts car. I already have 3 project cars & 2 wheeler, after that corvette value Post this morning thinking more about getting wife he "dream car" a C3 vette because "dem hips" which she means the fender arches.

Kinja'd!!!

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 15:03

If I ever can I want to move to Austrilia because US healthcare sooooooooooocks and Utes.

EL_ULY > XJDano
08/24/2014 at 15:13

true true.

I've been looking ar 944's way more than i should be. Soon enough hopefully. All these autoX posts are so rad.

But life first, then 944life :]

EL_ULY > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
08/24/2014 at 15:21

yeah i think so dude. My little sister was in tears amd moaning from the pain. We spent 15 min discussing what was covered and not covered. I told her "fuck it i'll pay just take her" She said she still has to check all this other shit first (i guess to see if they can milk the policy). After the 15 minutes they took her in. First thing the doctor told my little sister was "ok, i'm going to ask you to stop screaming now!" If my parents were not there i would of fucked some shit up after hearing that. I was pissed and my mom told me to go outside and calm down.

yeah i think they are just going to cancel it. México is not to far from here and they are Mexican nationals. All of us have dual citizenships. But for things like this, we are better off just paying for it like today.

EL_ULY > Flavien Vidal
08/24/2014 at 15:23

and for shiiiitty coverage. My mom went to get a check up and the company told her to see their doctor instead of her long time doctor. Dude it was the shittiest little shit clinic next to a grocery store in an even worse part of town than we live. It take a lot for me to call a place shitty compared to my hood. Not worth $1200 a month.

EL_ULY > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
08/24/2014 at 15:24

especially utes :]

EL_ULY > Atomic Buffalo
08/24/2014 at 15:27

i had the insurance card and all that with me. It was just so shitty waiting forever discussing payment while my sister was in pain only to not have it covered. First thing the doc said to my sister was "ok, i'm going to ask you to stop screaming now"

Fucked up and expensive shit.

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 15:31

The closest thing you can get here was the Subaru Baja.

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 16:10

Really wishing Mexico kept Texas right now?

ly2v8-Brian > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 16:14

The main problem is the insurance. The quality of care is excellent. Insurance though can really f you over. But if government coverage would work here as other countries (hopefully without their issues, like long waits for specialized care) this needs to be handled on the state level. The fed would just f up

Atomic Buffalo > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 16:32

Wow, that's shitty coverage, or a shitty insurance company.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 20:08

Prices of things government does not regulate or control: Cheaper than they used to be

Prices of things government does regulate or control: More expensive than they used to be

EL_ULY > Vince-The Roadside Mechanic
08/24/2014 at 20:08

i really want to know from a GM higher up just exactly WHY! don't the sell them here.

EL_ULY > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 20:10

lol nah! :] The big cities maybe, but not the Iraq-like northern regions of Mexico

EL_ULY > ly2v8-Brian
08/24/2014 at 20:17

yeah that's true man. Universal hearthcare would be awesome in theory but I don't think it would work here in the US for many reasons unfortunately.

EL_ULY > Atomic Buffalo
08/24/2014 at 20:20

lol well it could also be us doing something wrong to. Idk, what i do know is those monthly $1200 is not going too far here

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 20:26

I can support that. I've been to Juarez. It was a slow day. Only one car bomb.

EL_ULY > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
08/24/2014 at 20:27

Lol oooohhhh yes! I've been seeing that more and more forcefully lately. But i suppose it has always been like this. I am currently closing on my first garage (with built in house) up in Humble, literally a mountain of paperwork just for not suing or discrimination purposes lol.

And don't get me started on BS with immigration trying to get my wife here to Texas lol.

EL_ULY > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 20:31

lol right. They make a big deal about one beheading from ISIS. In Mexico, whole bus full of people get chopped up alive and thrown in the middle of a busy street so that everyone can see the chunks of meat. The 30+ heads get trown at the police stations. Men, women, and children.

ly2v8-Brian > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 20:45

Current political climate simply makes it unfeasible alone.

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 20:53

I read they had a girl still in law school become AG for the area. Her first day the head of the old one was left on her doorstep. She was in El Paso seeking asylum within the month.

I understood the US Border Guards were excessive for a reason. When I got accross the bridge and the Mexican Customs, Federal Police AND the army were there, I grew concerned. When i realized the Machine Gun nests and troops were looking into Mexico I may have Peed a Little.

My old roomate worked for the same company as I, but just outside Monterrey. He had better stories and footage. His ethnic melange of an appearance allowed him to blend.

I'm so insulated here I worry about the wrong parts of Toronto. Like City Hall.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 20:55

haha I am not all too well informed on immigration. But I know it is an issue...

EL_ULY > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 21:06

yeah she was like 20 years old. My cousin was in the US Border Patrol. They help people in need and book the accordingly, but always have to watch their bacl for heavily armed drug runners.

Mexico is beautiful land with awesome modern cities and and sights to see. So much culture. BUT, northern Mexico is pretty much a war zone.

Some people tell me Toronto is really nice and some tell me never to go lol.

EL_ULY > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
08/24/2014 at 21:10

welp, it make you kind of see why people risk everything crossing over illegally lol.

But you know what sir, my future garage is a double and if you ever need any maintenance or want to install anything on your future SK2, my garage is your garage :]

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 21:22

Sweet man, that sounds awesome! :D Is that what I'm looking at in the lead photo?

Vince-The Roadside Mechanic > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 21:29

One day I am going to call GM's info line and ask WHY NO UTE'S?

EL_ULY > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
08/24/2014 at 21:33

nah, that's in Mexico City. I am closing on a house in Humble. So psyched!

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 22:09

dont come in the winter. Thats all I'm saying. I avoid the outdoors as much as possible in the winter. Fucking cold man!!!

EL_ULY > The Compromiser
08/24/2014 at 22:15

noted lol. I have never seen snow in my life :]

The Compromiser > EL_ULY
08/24/2014 at 23:02

think sand. Cold wet murderous sand. Everywhere.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > EL_ULY
08/25/2014 at 07:34

Healthcare is not cheap. I can put it in the same category as airlines. It can be

A)Safe,

B)cheap,

C) effective

Now pick 2. I put it in with airlines because people "don't want to pay for this, or that" and then wonder why their stuck on the runway 2 hours on a Spirit airlines flight without a functioning bathroom. Canadians and Europeans pay much more in taxes as a huge amount of that is going towards their healthcare. In the US that has been taken over by the private industry(insurance).

The second reason is the insurance companies suck. There is no incentive for the improvement. Are you going to go someplace else? Odds are if its offered through work then, no.

And lastly hospitals. Are you going to shop around at 2:00am for the best emergency room? No.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > EL_ULY
08/25/2014 at 16:35

Ah yes, the worst part of "all capitalism all the time" - even your life has a price tag. Not saying the "obamacare" improvements changed much in any meaningful way besides bring out the fear mongerers and lies (from both sides) but what I found funny was the complaint of "death panels" which weren't even there while tax paying, natural born citizens die every year because they can't afford to not die. Here's a random thought - let's stop spending on other things and just make sure we can all live. Or is that too "socialist" these days?

EL_ULY > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/25/2014 at 16:58

lol maybe. I don't think an effective healthcare system would ever work and wanting it is I guess a commie thing according to some paranoid ass people lol :] Let's just either be in prison or super rich to get good healthcare

EL_ULY > gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
08/25/2014 at 17:14

soooo true. You've explained the best so far. Such mafia tactics